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Post by Woodrow LI on Sept 26, 2013 15:18:52 GMT -6
I know I never harmed anyone as a Muslim. but as a "Good Christian" serving as a pilot in Vietnam I filled more body bags than I care to remember. I like myself better as a disrespectful Muslim. Interesting and predictable. An Islam Muslim from America. Nothing new with Muslims here. Columbus had at least one Muslim on the Santa Maria, His navigator was a Muslim from Spain. There were Muslims that came with the Spaniards when they settled Meso-America. Many Muslims here have ancestors that came here before the Pilgrims. Before the Civil war nearly one fourth of the people in America were Muslim. (Most of the slaves were Muslims) Do not think all Muslims are violent or believe the Qur'an teaches violence. If you ever get to meet any Muslims you just may discover most are very nice people. |
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Post by jstwebbrowsing on Sept 26, 2013 16:15:49 GMT -6
I know I never harmed anyone as a Muslim. but as a "Good Christian" serving as a pilot in Vietnam I filled more body bags than I care to remember. Did your Christianity play are part in this? If so, what part did it play? I know of some that own a convenient store near me. We've talked enough that I know they are Muslim but I dunno how serious into their religion they are. They are very nice people. I also once worked for a Muslim couple that were Persians. I don't think they were serious about their religion but they were nice people. However I admit whenever I see someone that I think may be Muslim, I keep an eye on them, hoping they're not going to suicide bomb me. But the ones I know are all nice people. |
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Post by Woodrow LI on Sept 26, 2013 17:26:55 GMT -6
I know I never harmed anyone as a Muslim. but as a "Good Christian" serving as a pilot in Vietnam I filled more body bags than I care to remember. Did your Christianity play are part in this? If so, what part did it play? I think my Christianity instilled a strong sense of responsibility to defend "America and the American Way of Life" As a Young gung-Ho GI it was all about God and coutry. I never took off on a Mission without first praying for success in removing the Viet-Cong and destroying their places of hiding. I was probably about 40 years old before I actually saw ground videos of What my napalm runs did to Thatch hut villages. No wonder all of my runs were at night and I never had visual contact with my targets. Just coordinates on a map. Even today American soldiers going into combat pray. Every combat unit has a Christian chaplain as a spiritual mentor. Yes, Christianity is a very big role for the American Soldier. |
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Post by jstwebbrowsing on Sept 26, 2013 17:49:01 GMT -6
I've not been around much but I know some Christians that think America is the "Promised Land" given directy from God to Christians and therefore everying is okay done in the name of God and country.
Is this the sort of mentality that's behind it? How do they tie God and country so closely together?
And how is Islam different, because there seems to be violent and non-violent Muslims the same as there are Christians.
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Post by jstwebbrowsing on Sept 26, 2013 17:51:50 GMT -6
And do you ever worry a Muslim may suicide bomb you?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 17:52:57 GMT -6
Did your Christianity play are part in this? If so, what part did it play? I think my Christianity instilled a strong sense of responsibility to defend "America and the American Way of Life" As a Young gung-Ho GI it was all about God and coutry. I never took off on a Mission without first praying for success in removing the Viet-Cong and destroying their places of hiding. I was probably about 40 years old before I actually saw ground videos of What my napalm runs did to Thatch hut villages. No wonder all of my runs were at night and I never had visual contact with my targets. Just coordinates on a map. Even today American soldiers going into combat pray. Every combat unit has a Christian chaplain as a spiritual mentor. Yes, Christianity is a very big role for the American Soldier.  |
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Post by jstwebbrowsing on Sept 26, 2013 17:58:48 GMT -6
I think my Christianity instilled a strong sense of responsibility to defend "America and the American Way of Life" As a Young gung-Ho GI it was all about God and coutry. I never took off on a Mission without first praying for success in removing the Viet-Cong and destroying their places of hiding. I was probably about 40 years old before I actually saw ground videos of What my napalm runs did to Thatch hut villages. No wonder all of my runs were at night and I never had visual contact with my targets. Just coordinates on a map. Even today American soldiers going into combat pray. Every combat unit has a Christian chaplain as a spiritual mentor. Yes, Christianity is a very big role for the American Soldier. Is there something you wanted to say? Is the violin for Woodrow or for the villages destroyed by napalm? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 17:59:53 GMT -6
And do you ever worry a Muslim may suicide bomb you? Why would an Islamist worry about that. it would be for Mo (a reward for) Muhammadanism. Suicide bombing has nothing to do with Christianity. Where in the Scriptures Old and New Testament does it say to be a suicidest for God? Where in the Bible does it say to strap bombs to children because God can't get His message known without that? |
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Post by jstwebbrowsing on Sept 26, 2013 18:04:09 GMT -6
Because a Muslim extremist may view a Christian "sympathizer" as more evil than a Christian and want to kill them.
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Post by jstwebbrowsing on Sept 26, 2013 18:05:08 GMT -6
And I don't think all Muslims believe the same, just like all Christians do not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 18:06:16 GMT -6
Is there something you wanted to say? Is the violin for Woodrow or for the villages destroyed by napalm? Gosh should we throw Ron Paul in the debate? How about abortion and GMO foods? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 18:09:05 GMT -6
And I don't think all Muslims believe the same, just like all Christians do not. Christianity is a religion founded on the teachings in the Bible. Islam relies on the Koran, OUTSIDE of the Bible the Holy Scriptures....Get it? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 18:18:47 GMT -6
Because a Muslim extremist may view a Christian "sympathizer" as more evil than a Christian and want to kill them. What? So you think an Islamist sympathizer is a friend to Christians? |
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Post by jstwebbrowsing on Sept 26, 2013 18:19:34 GMT -6
Yes but it doesn't do any good to debate Woodrow over a belief he doesn't share. By charging that all Muslims believe in violence you are funneling him into a belief he he does not hold and therefore you cannot address his actual beliefs. If Woodrow were a suicide bomber I have no doubt he would not be shy about telling us how we all deserve to be blown up.
Would you like to be called a Nazi because Nazis were Christians.
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Post by jstwebbrowsing on Sept 26, 2013 18:20:24 GMT -6
Because a Muslim extremist may view a Christian "sympathizer" as more evil than a Christian and want to kill them. What? So you think an Islamist sympathizer is a friend to Christians? No but a suicide bomber might. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 18:22:01 GMT -6
Yes but it doesn't do any good to debate Woodrow over a belief he doesn't share. By charging that all Muslims believe in violence you are funneling him into a belief he he does not hold and therefore you cannot address his actual beliefs. If Woodrow were a suicide bomber I have no doubt he would not be shy about telling us how we all deserve to be blown up. Would you like to be called a Nazi because Nazis were Christians. Woodrow says that he practices ISLAM. ISLAM is NOT Christian. |
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Post by Woodrow LI on Sept 26, 2013 18:24:18 GMT -6
And do you ever worry a Muslim may suicide bomb you? Suicide bombing is quite new to Muslims. No Muslim capable of reading would consider suicide bombing. Suicide is a very serious sin. We are not even permitted to get Tattoos and should avoid even cutting hair except for what is necessary for sanitary reasons. We are fobidden to deliberatly harm our bodies in any manner. As a suicide bomber can not repent for killing himself, he has completely removed himself from ever reaching heaven. But outside of that between 1959 and 1989 I lived in the Islamic nations quite often. Never felt threatened or in harm's way at any time. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 18:25:28 GMT -6
What? So you think an Islamist sympathizer is a friend to Christians? No but a suicide bomber might. Right the Islamist bombers who strap bombs to children and DIE for Allah because they get virgins is the only "true Christian bomber for God"? Wow is it really that hard to see what Muhammidists are learning from their extra book the Koran? |
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Post by jstwebbrowsing on Sept 26, 2013 18:28:16 GMT -6
I know that. But you're not going to disprove Woodrow's belifs by debating against Islamic extremists.
Consider how Jesus treated a Samaritan woman. Samaritans were religiously despised by the Jews yet Jesus did not denounce her. And was the "good neighbor" not also a Samaritan?
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Post by Woodrow LI on Sept 26, 2013 18:30:55 GMT -6
Yes but it doesn't do any good to debate Woodrow over a belief he doesn't share. By charging that all Muslims believe in violence you are funneling him into a belief he he does not hold and therefore you cannot address his actual beliefs. If Woodrow were a suicide bomber I have no doubt he would not be shy about telling us how we all deserve to be blown up. Would you like to be called a Nazi because Nazis were Christians. Woodrow says that he practices ISLAM. ISLAM is NOT Christian. Gads Horrors Christians do not practice ISLAM they are not Muslims. Maybe I should hide under the nearest bridge until they all go away. Of course I do not Practice Christianity. I can't, I do not believe the NT is true. I would be a hypocrite if I lied and said I believe the NT is true. I have no objection over anyone being Christian. But I am not going to.be a Christian. I follow what I believe Jesus(as) taught. I do not believe we are supposed to worship him. |
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