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Post by Maggie on Sept 26, 2013 7:19:33 GMT -6
Molly Hemingway has published a piece in the Federalist that pulls together most of the recents acts of violence against Christians (non-Muslims is what our press calls it (when it acknowledges the carnage at all, in order not to admit that Christians are under siege in the Middle East and being systematically exterminated in some places). There is so much in her article that is quote-worthy that it is hard to know what to choose. But, since I must get to work and must make a decision, here is one portion that struck my notice;
Saturday people, Sunday people
We’re talking about Christian persecution by Muslims because of a particularly macabre issue: Jews have already largely been driven out of many Muslim countries.
Lela Gilbert, a journalist who writes about Jewish and Christian persecution, tells of encountering jihadi graffiti in Jerusalem that read “First comes Saturday, then comes Sunday.” She didn’t get the meaning at first. A friend explained that it referred to Jews worshiping on Saturday and Christians on Sunday and, more subtly, about the order that non-Muslims would be targeted.
Gilbert notes that in 1948 there were about 135,000 Jews in Iraq. Now there are fewer than a dozen. In 2003, Iraq had a fairly strong Christian population. Since 2003, more than half of the 800,000 Christians have fled church bombings, rapes, torture, kidnapping, beheading and house eviction.
Or take Egypt. In 1947 there were about 100,000 Jews there. Today there are less than 50, Gilbert says. And Egypt’s Copts — numbering about 8 million — are experiencing the worst anti-Christian pogrom in 700 years. The 30,000 Jews in 1948 Syria are down to less than a dozen. It’s the Christians’ turn.
This is a very disturbing article, particularly in light of our faux president's fascination with the Muslim world and his readiness to bend over for it. I think we can be very sure that we will not be helping any of the persecuted while he or any of his ilk are in power. |
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Post by Woodrow LI on Sept 26, 2013 9:01:24 GMT -6
I think the author missed a very important part of why the Jews virtually disappered from Iraq and Egypt. Notice the years with the highest populations were 1947 and 1948. Notice that many of the Egyptian Jews Lived in what became the Western Edge of Israel. Notice in 1948 Israel became a Nation. The Part of Egypt that contained many. probably most. Egyptian Jews was no longer in Egypt. They were now in Israel. Also in 1948 Israel to gain citizens offered land and Stipends to Jews in the Arab nations to migrate to Israel. Dang near all of the Jews in Iraq and Egypt grabbed the opportunity. Oddly the Iranian Jews flat refused the offer and stayed in Iran. I think if you look at the increase of the Jewish Population in Israel after 1948 pretty much matches the drop of Jewish population in the Arab nations. Notice between 1841-1950 the Jump of the number of Jews in what used to be Palestine and became Israel.  SOURCEThe author, Mary Hemingway, seems to be barking up the wrong tree in regards to the "Disappearance" of the Jews. they Migrated to Israel. The main concern is the Current persecution of Christians. I see that as an anti American thing not a Muslim vs Christian. It is Arab vs American. Christians are typically considered to be Americans in many Muslim nations. As Christianity is believed to be an American religion. For the past 50 years, nearly every Evangelistic Missionary coming into the Arab Nations has been American. |
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Post by Maggie on Sept 26, 2013 9:35:37 GMT -6
The Copts inhabited Egypt for 700 years until the Muslim conquest. It isn't Americans being killed, it was 85 Pakistani Christians last week. How many this week at the mall? The Iraqi Christian community has been decimated. Where are the Americans there? I am afraid it is far too easy to say that this is an "anti-American" movement and it wouldn't be an excuse for murder, arson, and other violence, if it were. This is where followers of the Muslim religion of peace need to step up and say stop! Not in our name. But, as always, there is silence.
Your graph doesn't really demonstrate anything helpful. It doesn't tell us who those Jews were (where they came from). People don't typically emigrate in large numbers from a place they live in peacefully, particularly to go to a hostile region. Of course from 1945-50 we see huge influxes of European Jews. They are a different kettle of fish too.
Nothing about the attitude of Americans and other westerners towards Muslims will change, until Muslims stand up in large numbers and loudly condemn this sort of violence.
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Post by Woodrow LI on Sept 26, 2013 11:45:45 GMT -6
The Copts inhabited Egypt for 700 years until the Muslim conquest. It isn't Americans being killed, it was 85 Pakistani Christians last week. How many this week at the mall? The Iraqi Christian community has been decimated. Where are the Americans there? I am afraid it is far too easy to say that this is an "anti-American" movement and it wouldn't be an excuse for murder, arson, and other violence, if it were. This is where followers of the Muslim religion of peace need to step up and say stop! Not in our name. But, as always, there is silence. Your graph doesn't really demonstrate anything helpful. It doesn't tell us who those Jews were (where they came from). People don't typically emigrate in large numbers from a place they live in peacefully, particularly to go to a hostile region. Of course from 1945-50 we see huge influxes of European Jews. They are a different kettle of fish too. Nothing about the attitude of Americans and other westerners towards Muslims will change, until Muslims stand up in large numbers and loudly condemn this sort of violence. What is not noticed is Muslims do stand up in huge numbers condemning this sort of violence. The problem is the ones who do such actions are not going to pay any attention to any mainstream Muslims. They target us just as much as they target Christians. Look at the number of Mosques. Sunni, Shi'ite. Ahmadiyyat and Sufi that have been bombed by Terrorists claiming to be Muslim. A few anti-Terrorist mass demonstrations by Muslims:  While this one took place in 2008 what makes it memorable is it was one of if not the largest demonstration ever staged with Millions of protestors. Yet it went virtually unnoticed and did not even make the news in most countries. SOURCEOne of the largest Islamic world wide groups that sponsors anti-terrorism campaigns.  for more information please visit their site HERESOURCE |
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Post by Woodrow LI on Sept 26, 2013 12:06:55 GMT -6
What I didn't address in the other post.
True it is not Americans being killed in Egypt and Pakistan.
However, In both nations Christianity has come to be symbolic of America. A Christian is seen as being a Supporter of America.
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